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Eternal Torment: Crushed For Ever

2012-01-28T09:30:00.002-05:00

Once again, the Iron Lady's fist full of scriptures comes down full force on the false eternal torment LIE. Mt 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world <165>? Strong's #165: "aion" = ever, age, eternity, universe There is "this world": Mr 4:

Tom (Lambsfury) Golda's Answer

2012-01-24T23:23:00.002-05:00

"For Ever" Tormentor Tom Golda finally addressed Bob K.'s three "for ever" verses pertaining to the "new heavens and earth". From FRL group, message 11768: GOLDA: "Bob said: "You asked if I really believe that delusion. I mentioned 3 verses and you call them delusion - Psalm 148:4-6, Psalm 104: 5, Ecclesiastes 1-4". "No, I didn't call the verses delusion, I called "your interpretation" of them

Tom (Lambsfury) Golda's "For Ever" Problem

2012-01-22T08:32:00.033-05:00

* See Two (2) Updates (below) * Third Update added 1/24/12 (below) Ps 104:5 Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever. Re 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. "For ever" isn't only Tom's problem. It is also Dr.

Revelation 11:11 and 20:12: "Histemi"

2012-01-14T16:25:00.000-05:00

Continuing from my last post: The Greek word "histemi" (Stong's #2476) is translated as "stand", stand by", "establish" and also "stood". If we compare Revelation 11:11 and Revelation 20:12, we can easily see why the two witnesses were resurrected. Re 11:11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood <2476> upon their feet; and great fear fell

Chris McCan't Understand Revelation 11:11

2012-01-14T10:44:00.002-05:00

If the Lord tarries, we will all get to see the Campingites' first 2012 date failure. Chris McCann, the new date setting guru who leads Ebiblefellowship on Paltalk and 'Time and Judgment' on Yahoo, sent a teaching to the Yahoo group on the two witnesses of Revelation 11 whom John saw stand upon their feet after lying dead in the street of the great city for three and a half days. Re 11:11 And

Opril's Book Club: January 2012 Selection

2012-01-13T16:59:00.004-05:00

Since the world did not end on October 21st, 2011 as Harold Camping predicted, we must all carry on and bloom wherever God has planted us. The latest date prediction from Chris McCann of Ebiblefellowship for March 7th and 8th, 2012 also seems doubtful. However, our task to endure unto the end will be much more difficult if our freedom continues to turn into tyranny. This month's book selection is

Dr. Strong on Isaiah 42:5

2012-01-10T20:57:00.000-05:00

The Strong's Concordance is an amazing study tool, but it is riddled with false traditions of men that Dr. James Strong believed in and promoted in many of his Hebrew and Greek definitions, along with a lot of sloppy conclusions. While researching the Hebrew word "‘am" that is translated at "nations" (and "people" in Isaiah 42:5) in Dr. Strong's concordance, I read the following rhetorical

'Departout' Fraud!

2012-01-09T18:03:00.016-05:00

Arminian-Churchite "JimB" of the Departout forum posted Ezekiel 33:11 numerous times over the past four days and each time he omitted the last three words of the verse: "O house of Israel". Ezekiel 33:11 (King James version) "Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil

Churchites vs. Churchites ("Denominations")

2012-01-08T09:51:00.010-05:00

Game on! The Churchites are getting a jump on death and tormenting each other over at the 'Departout' forum. It's no surprise that the topic tearing them apart is the their cherished "free will" creed. You know, the one that gives all members of any church denomination the ability to either accept Christ or reject Him. They actually claim that Jesus died for "all men", but only if they should

"And He Hardened Pharaoh's Heart" (Ex. 7:13)

2012-01-07T12:10:00.009-05:00

In the wake of the end of Campingism, the denominations-oriented 'Departout' forum is now overflowing with false church teaching. It would take several armies of bloggers to keep up with all the hyper-heresies that are now being proudly displayed by the Pious Ones. Here is another free-will advertisement from Churchite Frank: FRANK: "Him, being delivered by the determined purpose and

The Denominations Love Free Will

2012-01-05T22:46:00.002-05:00

Churchite "JimB" from the Departout forum doesn't like the biblical doctrine of election very much. JIMB: "There are verses in the Bible that clearly teach election, but there are verses that say that God does not desire that any person dies unsaved and desires all to be saved. 1 Timothy 2 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, 4 who desires all men to be saved and to

Tombs as Memorials

2011-12-29T20:25:00.005-05:00

Unfortunatley, not one Churchite sent over an explanation of why Jesus said "heaven" so many times, but "paradise" only once, just before His death and burial. (I was sure Churchite Jimbo from Departout would submit a helpful explanation, but I guess he's got nuttin' honey.) The penitent thief asked the Lord Jesus to remember him in the future, after their deaths at Calvary. Lu 23:42 And he said

"Nephesh" Is The Soul, Life, Body, Mind, Heart Person, Creature

2011-12-27T21:36:00.004-05:00

The believer's soul does not ascend into heaven when the believer dies. The soul dies. Jesus describes death as "sleep" because death is temporary until the resurrection. The entire person in his or her spirit, soul and body is preserved unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 1Th 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be

"In Heaven" vs. "In Paradise"

2011-12-25T20:13:00.003-05:00

Jesus' many references to "heaven" are recorded in the following verses from the book of Matthew, and also in the books of Mark, Luke and John: Mt 5:12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you. Mt 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in

The Pope's Measly Truth

2011-12-25T14:39:00.009-05:00

A friend commented privately on a past 'Bah-Humbug' blog of mine wherein I compared Christmas to Halloween. And so, I was inspired to seize another opportunity to spread my anti-Christmas message of tears, sorrow and mourning for any Christmas-weary believer who might happen by. Jas 4:9 Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness. Try to

Happy New Year?

2011-12-22T22:35:00.011-05:00

The latest date prediction comes to us from one of Chris McCann's faithful watchers in T&J message #11250. T&J MCCANNITE: "One last factor to consider: in the countdown to the new year as the world readies for a night of literal drunkenness and revelry could it be possible that God might have a surprise waiting that the world does not expect such as the end." What a cool timepath! It fits the

"WDCT?" (What Does Chris Think?)

2011-12-22T18:41:00.003-05:00

Thinking has been banned at the Time & Judgment group, except for false date predictor-teacher Chris McCann. T&J Message #11235 from Chris McCann to his group on December 21st, 2011 (emphasis mine): MCCANN: "Dear Time & Judgment, ...The Jews led by Joshua destroyed their enemies and then inhabited the land. But how did they possess the land? By lot. The tribes of Israel were given a possession

Sleep: The First Annihilation

2011-12-20T06:47:00.003-05:00

Tom (The Furious One) Golda writes: THE FURIOUS ONE: "With so many verses it is clear the Bible does not teach "sleeping and non-existance" That is true. What the Bible does teach is sleeping and the first death prior to Christ's return and the ressurrection". Since there is a "first" death, mere common sense dictates that a "second" death follows. A quick look at two plainly stated verses lets

New Family Radio Denominations

2011-12-18T23:45:00.005-05:00

If you would like to learn how the spin-off denominational churches started as soon as the apostles were replaced by grievous wolves who entered in, look no further than the below list of new denominations being formed from the Family Radio ministry. We can be sure this is only a partial list, as new denominations will continue to surface with their very own pastors as the disagreements continue

Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists, Pastors, Teachers

2011-12-18T16:34:00.005-05:00

The body of Christ does not "go to" church. They "are" the church. Eph 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: A lot of church folk claim that Ephesians 4:12 means that believers are required to attend local churches in

Date Setting Going Underground To Maintain Credibility

2011-12-17T12:56:00.012-05:00

Campingite McCannite Gary Higgins is getting embarrassed by his group's visibility in the world. He and others are working on a new date prediction, but after a dozen or so failed over the past two months, it got a little embarrassing. Damage control is needed for the future. HIGGINS: "I do not believe it is wise to declare another date at this time openly so all can hear." If the Campingites

New Dates From Campingworld

2011-12-16T10:51:00.004-05:00

New dates are now being tested by Family Radio's newly formed 'no-salvation" denomination headed by Chris McCann of EBiblefellowship. Chris has been de-throned by Family Radio, but in spite of his disenfranchisement, he seems to maintain a friendly relationship with the ministry. Who knows? Chris may just be on vacation from Family Radio until Camping approves of the new date his elves are

Family Radio's Jonah Link

2011-12-14T18:40:00.004-05:00

Family Radio Board Member, Tom Evans, prepared a little "Oops" speech for the ministry's listeners. First, Tom highlights Jonah's ministry in Nineveh in this excerpt: EVANS: "The Bible gives us the example of the prophet Jonah, and God’s command to preach to Nineveh the message that they would be destroyed in 40 days. Jonah had no idea that God would not destroy Nineveh, or that He would have

Chris McCann: New Date Coming Soon!

2011-12-13T21:24:00.003-05:00

The McCampingites are still going strong in their never-ending, merry-go-round of delusions. Chris Mcann hosted a packed house of date seekers on Sunday and offered what he believes is calendar encouragement from Hebrews 10:36-37: Heb 10:36 For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise. 37 For yet a little while, and he that shall come will

How NOT To Compare Scriptures

2011-12-11T09:50:00.006-05:00

This is for my old friend, Campingite, Darrell Lockridge. Darrell believes that the Campingites are the two witnesses who "stand upon their feet" after three and a half days of being killed. Darrell believes the two witnesses (i.e., the Campingties) are resurrected from their dead state to continue to proclaim the gospel. Yes, that is what Darrell believes, even though Revelation 11:7 clearly

My Ghetto

2011-12-10T10:07:00.015-05:00

A certain spiritual midget debates my beliefs that are amply supported by scripture by telling others that I live in a "ghetto". Ouch. After giving this novel idea much thought, I decided that this is very true on the spiritual level, if not the physical level. First, a definition of "ghetto" from Wikipedia: "A ghetto is a section of a city predominantly occupied by a group who live there,

The Pillar And Ground of Truth

2011-12-06T18:29:00.005-05:00

D'oh! I erred in my previous post when I stated that "God is the pillar and ground of truth" - again. After I shared that idea, I remembered that I recently received correction on it, but then I forgot the correction and lapsed back into the wrong idea. This is not what some would call being "tossed to and fro" with every wind of doctrine, but rather the need to reinforce correction after so much

Church Membership: Three Easy Steps

2011-12-05T06:33:00.001-05:00

Yesterday I spotted an ad for the Marble Collegiate Church in my city. The Marble Church has a rich history which began in 1628 when it was formed as The Collegiate Reformed Protestant Church. I checked their website when I got home and found the three-steps necessary for membership in this church, which is currently part of the Reformed Church of America. Are you ready to make a commitment for

Bruno Kolberg's Two Witnesses, Olive Trees & Candlesticks

2011-12-03T13:11:00.009-05:00

Churchite Bruno Kolberg of the FRL group shared a link to his copyrighted study of the symbolic two witnesses, two olive trees and two candlesticks. http://www.redatedkings.com/download/NightVis5.pdf Mr. Kolberg introduces his study by expressing his hope that it will foster discussion. That is also my hope. He then asserts right at the get-go that the "temple" is the New Testament church. He

Wanted: Pastors (Any Denomination)

2011-12-02T12:43:00.002-05:00

Here is an amazing quote from a Churchite from the Departout forum. "If anyone would like to post and participate in this discussion/debate, you're welcome to do so. Any pastors reading this, maybe? Do you agree that the exhorting in view, in Hebrews 10:25, is in relation to exhorting one another, as the KJV translators understood the verse? Thanks." There is absolutely no difference whatsoever

Church Denominations: A Necessary Test

2011-12-02T08:54:00.004-05:00

1 Co 1:18 For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it. 19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you. I do not believe that any aspect of churchism is more damning than denominationalism. This matter gets right to the very heart of the problem. Most professing

Church Denominations vs. 1st Corinthians 1:10

2011-12-01T20:38:00.003-05:00

1 Co 1:10 Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.

Departout Forum's "Sabbath Day" Thread

2011-11-30T18:02:00.001-05:00

Peterx (Sabbatarian) asked Frank (non-Sabbatarian) the following questions: PETERX: "You yourself have stated that your day of communal worship is Sunday and that you would not engage in certain practices on this day, such as going to the beach or perhaps something else. Are you not esteeming the Lord’s Day in some measure and setting it apart? Would you not allow the possibility that Paul is not

Church Denominations vs. 1st Corinthians 1:11-13

2011-11-28T22:00:00.003-05:00

1 Co 1:11 For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you. 12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ. 13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul? Oh dear. So many pastors and only one Lord's

Watch!

2011-11-28T06:58:00.008-05:00

The Campingites never cease to amaze me. If you listen to folks who follow pastors, rabbis, or the pope, you will surely hear a lot of strange stuff, but rarely the jaw-dropping kinds of statements we hear these days from Harold Camping's followers. Here is a T&J quote that is pretty silly. It refers to Camping's teaching that "watch" in the Bible means to "look in the Bible", with "for a date"

Church Denominations vs. Matthew 15:7-9

2011-11-27T22:09:00.003-05:00

Mt 15:7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. Isa 29:13 Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have

The Pathetic "You're A Campingite!" Defense

2011-11-26T07:38:00.003-05:00

"She is no different than the rest of the Campingites..." "It all ties together very nicely, but April is still in the darkness of Campingism". I get to laugh out loud when folks attack me with the tired old "Campinite" label.The argument goes like this. If I, yours truly, blog about anything which these folks disagree with and if it is in any way related to any doctrine taught by Harold Camping,

James' Brethren Were Scattered, Not Gathered

2011-11-25T22:04:00.003-05:00

Jas 1:19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins. Did James write his letter to the brethren in a corporate church setting, as Churchite Sean suggests? SEAN: "Notice how this is directed to the brethren in a corporate setting

Church, God and Hebrews 10:25

2011-11-25T12:11:00.005-05:00

Thanks to Sean for another glimpse into the works mentality of Churchites who claim that believers must go to church, even as they admit that they do not go themselves. It's really just the command that's important to them, not the obedience of the command they attempt to bind everyone else to. I find Sean to be a fascinating case study of this extreme type of "do as I say, not as I do" Churchite

Obedience To Rulers (Heb. 13:17)

2011-11-18T08:31:00.012-05:00

In the Petex/Frank, et al. Departout disucussion on the matter of Sunday sabbath observance, pro-Sabbatarian Churchite Peterx cited Hebrews 13:17: Heb 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you. Frank's pastor/ruler believes

The Sabbath In Mark 2:27

2011-11-13T09:37:00.012-05:00

As I continue with my personal Bible studies by challenging every conclusion I willingly picked up from some man, I am learning how easy it is to glean a works or timeline message in just about every passage. Churchite and Sunday sabbath observer, Peterx, shared more of his views on the Sunday sabbath in a response to Churchite and 'not so much' Sunday sabbath observer, Frank, at the Departout

Looking For 'No Salvation' in Revelation 14:3

2011-11-12T12:08:00.000-05:00

Some believe, as I once did, that there is a message of 'no salvation' in certain verses. One of those verses is Revelation 14:3. Re 14:3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and NO MAN COULD LEARN THAT SONG BUT THE HUNDRED AND FORTY FOUR THOUSAND, which were redeemed from the earth. The 144,000 is the great multitude and the great

Harold Camping's Big Fake Out

2011-11-10T18:12:00.008-05:00

I can't wait to hear the new teaching from the Friday Night Study team after this latest teaching from Harold Camping. Are they "on" tonight? CAMPING: "So, the first question I have to ask all of us (I have to ask myself this very, very carefully): Are we ready to stand back and wait and do some more studying and recognize that... ...maybe God is not finished with bringing Salvation to the world.

Special Blog Feature

2011-11-10T00:23:00.002-05:00

I enjoyed reading the following blog post by Shodan and wanted to share it here: End of Church Age: Many departed out Christians have been believing Harold Camping's date of the end of the church age, i.e. 1988. There is no biblical validation for this date, nor any other date, as the Bible is about Christ, His relationship with His true church and his second coming to take His church to be with

Early Sunday Sabbath Fathers

2011-11-07T06:21:00.003-05:00

Number of times "May or October 21st" are found in the Bible: 0 Number of times "Sunday" or "Sunday Sabbath" is found in the Bible: 0 When Christians observe their graceless, ritualistic "Sunday Sabbaths", they are actually observing the "first day of the week of the seventh day". Some Christians prefer to say that they observe the resurrection of Christ on what they call the "Lord's Day",

Replying To Pope Peter X's "Lord's Day" Sermon

2011-11-06T13:22:00.019-05:00

In reply to Departout member "Greg", Churchite Peterx published his latest works message regarding the Churchites' graceless observance of one 24-hour day out of the week every Sunday (Biblical Timeline category, "October 28 is the end?"). Do not look for any biblically sound arguments from Peterx's co-members at the churches-promoting Departout forum, because most of them remain bound to the

Harold Camping Lied - Not Eve

2011-11-06T11:32:00.010-05:00

Family Radio's programming department staffers believe that they are airing wonderful, faithful teaching programs from the "young" Mr. Camping. The fact is, Mr. Camping was applying the exact same first faulty principles from his own mind way back then that he has been applying to his space-cadet, twilight-zone teachings of late. For example, with my extra daylight hour today, I lent my ear to an

Sunday ("The Lord's Day"): A "Likeness" Of Christ

2011-11-05T08:50:00.008-04:00

De 4:23 Take heed unto yourselves, lest ye forget the covenant of the LORD your God, which he made with you, and make you a graven image, or the likeness of any thing, which the LORD thy God hath forbidden thee. Ps 17:15 As for me, I will behold thy face in righteousness: I shall be satisfied, when I awake, with thy likeness. "Similitude" in Numbers 12:8, below, is the same Hebrew word as "

STOP THE FLAGRANT LIES, CHURCHITES!

2011-11-04T19:46:00.007-04:00

The Churchites will stop at nothing, including disgraceful in-your-face LIES about Harold Camping and Family Radio in order to promote their own demonic church institutions. They have no shame at all in the lies they are now spreading wherever they gather. The Departout and Family Radio Listeners groups are very busy these days, promoting the lying "reporters", "documentarians" and photographers

The "Sabbaths" in Matthew 28:1

2011-11-04T09:43:00.016-04:00

Mt 28:1 ¶ In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre. All theologians have an agenda. Many of them want to make you and I think that the "first day of the week" in the Old Testament translates into: "Get yourself to a local church every Sunday to worship God". Harold Camping taught it this way, and

The Shame That Keeps On Giving

2011-11-03T18:17:00.012-04:00

From "Today on T.V." section, amNewYork, Thursday, November 3, 2011: Parks and Recreation (8:30 p.m. NBC/4) - "Pawnee folks contemplate their lives when a group predicts the world's end." Remember the recent nation-wide Family Radio caravan and billboard end-of-the-world campaign across the nation? So do t.v.'s comedy writers. It's only television, but it shows how the May 21st warning campaign

Corporate Churches

2011-11-03T07:36:00.000-04:00

Mainstream Christianity, which is comprised of various denominations, is the denomination of Judaism. The Churchites are absolutely correct when they insist that the "church age" is not over. That's because their "church age" is the "temple age" that is based on the seventh day sabbath. The "sabbath day" never ended. Today's literal sabbath day is the same seventh day sabbath day it always was.

Daily (Not Sunday) Exhortation

2011-11-02T17:50:00.000-04:00

Heb 10:25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching. There is no "Sunday" or "first day of the week" in view in Hebrews 10. Exhorting goes hand in hand with assembling, and neither one is a duty reserved for one day out of the week. Heb 3:13 But exhort one another daily, while it

First Principle of Bible Study

2011-11-01T06:57:00.001-04:00

How to tell the difference between God's commandments and men's strange fire: A. The Commandment from the LORD: Ex 35:2 Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death. B. The Strange Fire cited by men to observe Sunday as the new Sabbath Day: Ac 20:7 And upon the first day

"When Ye Come Together"

2011-10-31T06:46:00.003-04:00

1Co 11:18 For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it. 1Co 11:20 When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord’s supper. 1Co 11:33 Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another. 1Co 14:26 How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a

The Non-Works Message Of Isaiah 58:13

2011-10-30T15:06:00.000-04:00

Isa 58:13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words: Excerpt from an LR message from Shodan to the LR group, regarding the traditional false teaching of the "Sunday Sabbath".

Term Limits For Chris McCann

2011-10-30T10:17:00.008-04:00

It looks like Family Radio's next best hope has nothing at all to say to Harold Camping's sheep. The following announcement was posted at the LR group: Message received from Chris of EBiblefellowship : Yes we will be having fellowship with hymn sing and Scripture reading only starting at 10:30am. Please feel free to share this with others Tony. May the Lord's perfect will be done,Chris What good

"Wave Sheaf Offering Day"

2011-10-29T16:25:00.007-04:00

The short article below explains how the once-a-year wave sheaf offering day is related to the New Testament's phrase: "the first day of the week": http://www.bibleinsight.com/firstday.html I am not familiar with the author, but I heartily applaud his "New Christian Message", although it sounds to me like an old Christian message. Perhaps he had his "new life" in mind, rather than the message

"The First Day of the Week"

2011-10-29T09:42:00.027-04:00

This biblical phrase "the first day of the week", which the Churchites (AND their fellow Sunday idolaters, the Campingites) cling to for dear life does not mean "Sunday", nor any other day of the week. The phrase is used eight times in the New Testament of the King James version. I have read and re-read the verses that refer to "the first day of the week" but cannot see even the slightest hint of

Imagine Heaven

2011-10-29T07:38:00.006-04:00

The late Beatle John Lennon imagined no heaven. Presidential candidate and former Godfather's Pizza CEO Herman Cain imagined no pizza. Here is what I imagine: Imagine there's no working It's easy if you try... Imagine there're no buildings It isn't hard to do... Nothing to work or sweat for And no traditions too... Imagine all the people Living life in Christ... You may say that I'm a dreamer

Letters From India (The Sabbath)

2011-10-28T18:46:00.002-04:00

It's time to forget the lies of Campingism and get back to the Doctrines of Grace. Here is an old Latter Rain message I saved for posterity and dusted off for your reading pleasure. The message was sent to Ed H. by Shodan. My thanks to Shodan for his desire to share his Biblical views with others like me and Ed. LETTER #1 Dear Ed, If you carefully review my posts to LR and also emails sent to you

Question for Departout's Churchites

2011-10-28T07:08:00.000-04:00

The same question submitted to Dr. Ken Matto's FRL Churchites who think outside the box (see post below). As Dr. Matto correctly states: "CAMPING WAS WRONG AGAIN - IT IS TIME TO RETURN TO CHRIST AND FORGET ALL THE DATE SETTING AND THE FALSE TEACHINGS..." It sure looks good on paper and it has a nice ring to it, but does he really mean what he says? Oh, wait. Is Ken only talking about the

Question For "FRL" Churchites Who Think Outside The Box

2011-10-27T19:27:00.008-04:00

After reading and replying to a comment that was sent to me today in regard to the parable of the rich man and Lazarus, I decided I have a good question for Ken and his churchite friends who are true eternal tormentors, as well as true Bereans. My blog provides the ability to raise questions such as this one from afar, but while you can lead a horse to water, you can't make him drink. But here

Word For The Day: "Confession"

2011-10-26T06:42:00.003-04:00

Sometimes people use words they think means one thing, when, in fact, they mean something else entirely. And sometimes such people could not care less when they use the wrong words because they know they help to create an exciting rumor. One word often mistaken for "denial" is "confession". Notice in the below FRL post how cleverly the word "denial" is used in regard to the "exlusive" Christian

More Iffy News From FRL

2011-10-25T06:57:00.005-04:00

The FRL group ("Family Radio Listeners" a/k/a "Funny Rumor Listeners") has another good one going. That is, that Harold Camping...."CONFESSES THAT NO MAN CAN KNOW THE DAY OR HOUR!!!" Yeah, right. A certain FRL member is wetting his pants over this fake news, while citing a so-called "documenatarian" (read "spy"), who, according to a Christian Post story, was recently attending Camping's "church",

"The Church Age"

2011-10-24T06:48:00.005-04:00

...was really "The Grace Age". It followed "The Temple Age". What most folks are thinking when they say "Church Age" is really "The New Temple Age", with different practices, i.e. a new 24-hour day to view as holy. Churches mimick temple worship. That is not what Jesus had in mind when He liberated His people from the legal rituals and traditions set up by God to bring His body of believers along

Camping Date Setters' New Battle Cry

2011-10-24T06:42:00.001-04:00

The new refrain I keep hearing from the defeated Campingites is really a spin on their old refrain, but it sheds more light on their very un-Christian belief that, in order for Christ to return, His elect must first be aware of the date. They keep assuring themselves and each other that Christ will not let them down. They will be raptured, they seem to insist, if they will only wait long enough

Calendar Loss Therapy: Five Stages of Grief

2011-10-23T17:30:00.002-04:00

There has been a death in the Family Radio family: Harold Camping's Biblical Timeline of the History of the World. The Campingite date setters who took their timeline all the way to Friday, October 21st are now going through a very natural grieving process. They are hurting and they need time to heal. The five stages are: 1. Denial2. Anger3. Bargaining4. Depression5. Acceptance From what I

Don't Throw The Baby Out With The Bathwater

2011-10-23T16:00:00.008-04:00

Now I know why Harold Camping liked that phrase so much. Today, that wise saying applies to his failed Biblical Timeline of the History of the World. The squeaky clean "baby" is the new, handy question ? mark for the dirty timeline-bathwater. It is nothing short of jaw-dropping-amazing to see the Mc-Campingites gathered in Chris McCann's Paltalk Ebiblefellowship room. I hate to state the obvious

Loosely Coalesced Churchites

2011-10-23T11:11:00.003-04:00

"People who need people". Are they really the luckiest people in the world? Or, are they people who do not need Christ? Churchite Jim Thompson sent a message to Campingite date setter and ex-Churchite David Jung via the Departout forum that needs answering from a departed out non-Camingite. That someone would be me. THOMPSON: "Returning to the churches" is not going to cure all the problems of

Suspicious News From FRL (Again)

2011-10-22T15:46:00.005-04:00

Tom Golda posted the following on the Family Radio Listeners' message board: GOLDA: Interesting quote from one of the news media on the Internet: "Harold Camping knows perfectly the millions of dollars in free publicity that this stunt means for his Church and radio show." I doubt that this silly and libelous comment was taken from a reputable news source. Which news source thinks that Harold

October 22nd "D-Day" by Michael E. Brooks

2011-10-22T09:18:00.022-04:00

As an introduction to the above article, last night I listened to General Chris McCann rallying his wounded troops after buying one more day from the devil. McCann promised that, after 11 a.m. EST today, they would settle down to search for their "error". Unfortunately, if the Mc-Campingites are true to form, they will be searching for their error within the pages of Harold Camping's false

Opril's Book Club: Daily Light

2011-10-22T08:28:00.002-04:00

Daily Light is a super morning and evening devotional book which I have had on my literal bookshelf for years and just recently added to my e-book's virtual bookshelf. The book's daily readings were complied by Samuel Bagster. My paperback copy, now yellowish and dog-eared cost $9.95 here in the U.S. I often hear this book's organized readings for each day of the year being read over the airwaves

Is Anything Too Hard for the Lord? (Gen. 18:14)

2011-10-21T16:57:00.001-04:00

The Latter Rainers are now citing Genesis 18:14 to ease their grief over the now apparent October 21st date prediction failure. Ge 18:14 Is any thing too hard for the LORD? At the time appointed I will return unto thee, according to the time of life, and Sarah shall have a son. No, it was not too hard for God to cause Sarah to conceive and bear a son in her golden years, but it will be too hard

This Just In: New Date Prediction!

2011-10-21T13:05:00.017-04:00

* Updated Sunday, October 23rd, 2011 ("Resurrection Sunday") is the next date for the end of the world. "Resurrection". Get it? Today is like Good Friday and two days from now will be like the day Jesus was raised from the dead. How could we have missed this obvious piece of information? Thanks to Brothers Anthony Hernandez and Bob James for the heads up. Of course, Anthony invites all

"Quietly" Covering Up With The "Jonah" Defense

2011-10-21T09:14:00.030-04:00

10/22/2011 Update: The anonymous "Special Message" dated October 20, 2011 and entitled "Having Had Mercy Have Mercy" referred to below has been deleted from Family Radio's website. It is, however, prominently featured on Chris McCann's website. Up until a few days ago, Harold Camping's "quietly" doctrine referred to the merciful manner in which the unsaved were going die TODAY, OCTOBER 21st,

The Churches' EOTCA Argument

2011-10-19T22:39:00.011-04:00

One of the goofiest ideas I have ever heard comes from a few Churchites who are Camping watchers. The idea they came up with is that Harold Camping began teaching the end of the church age (EOTCA) because he was mad at a church that asked him to leave. Why would Camping hold such a grudge and why would he invent such a teaching to try to even the score? For what? I would guess that for every

Good-Bye FBS

2011-10-19T06:48:00.008-04:00

Don't let the door hit you on your way out. Kevin Brown of the Family Radio spin-off Friday Night Bible Study (FBS) program is really hard to listen to for very long. I can only take his asinine "studies" for about five minutes. Brown, who plays the role of pastor to the hilt, breaks all kinds of records for false statements in one session. After tomorrow's date-prediction failure, Mr. Brown may

Word For The Day: "Remnant"

2011-10-18T06:56:00.006-04:00

While reading the current discussion between Tonks and Dataman over at the Departout forum, I was reminded that one big reason many Churchites are confused by words like "church", "Israel" and phrases like "the church in the wilderness" is because they do not grasp the very basic concept of the REMNANT of Israel. There were churches (gatherings) of both non-elect and the elect. That is what "

The Biblical Timeline's Gun That Will Soon Be Smoking

2011-10-17T20:28:00.013-04:00

Saturday, October 22nd, 2011 will be Family Radio President Harold Camping's blue stained dress for the rest of his days on earth and even until the Lord actually does return. Unless... Unless he confesses. I don't mean a confession about "probably missing something". I mean a real confession about "deceiving millions of people numerous times". Mr. Camping should learn from the experience of

Open Letter To Family Radio

2011-10-15T17:57:00.017-04:00

Mr. Craig HulsebosFamily RadioOakland California Dear Craig, I am from the WFME listening area and still enjoy Family Radio programming, but not enough to help support the ministry financially. I would like to make donations to Family Stations, Inc. as I did in the past, but I can't do so if I am unable to keep my radio tuned in 24/7. Below are a few of my requests so that I can help support you

My John 14:2-3 ("Prepare a Place") Problem

2011-10-15T16:19:00.004-04:00

I don't understand how the souls of the now deceased disciples have supposedly already been received by Jesus when John 14:3 states very clearly that they will be received by Him when He returns. Joh 14:2 In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you

Deception In The Garden of Eden & Beyond

2011-10-15T10:36:00.005-04:00

I sometimes have a hard time trying to decide which false old or new tradition of man to write about. For example, this morning I heard an announcement over my local Family Radio station about an old Harold Camping teaching series that will be dug up from the archives and aired tonight on the subject of the "Sunday Sabbath". That announcement made me wonder. With only one more "Sunday Sabbath"

The 2012 Presidential Election

2011-10-14T00:06:00.002-04:00

I sure do miss the pre-May 21st days when Harold Camping and Family Radio were white-hot topics helping us forget all about the sinking economy. Things are so bad now, I find myself reading Didymus's pick for president in 2012 over at Departout. Wasn't Didymus on board with the whole May 21st gag just a few months ago? And today he's on the campaign trail? What a clever way to show how far he has

James 5:19-20: Conversion and Salvation

2011-10-11T19:05:00.006-04:00

Today's two New Testament words for study are: 1) "convert" and 2) "save" Both words are found in James 5:19-20, making it a Hyper-Arminian dream passage: Jas 5:19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins. The "sinner" of verse

Believers' Salt & Light Does Not Save!

2011-10-09T12:09:00.001-04:00

The elect, saved believers of God always have the light of Christ within them. But that does not mean they have the power to save anyone. In his argument for salvation up to the very last moment of time, my old friend "Femi" wrote the following in his LR message # 52063 (emphasis mine): FEMI: "Our very existence in this world is a proclamation of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, even if we do not

Chris McCann's November Calendar

2011-10-09T10:04:00.008-04:00

In his last "Friday Night Bible Study" Q&A time, date setter Chris McCann counseled his followers (and me) on the question of warning others about the end of the world, allegedly on October 21st. While explaining that there is no need to get involved with any sort of warning about the coming end of the world, Chris admitted that he and his family have dental appointments scheduled in November.

"Many Stripes" Are For Correction

2011-10-09T09:23:00.002-04:00

Wherever eternal torment believers think they have found proof for their belief in the Scriptures, it invariably turns out to be a parable that refers to correction for the believers or the unmitigated anguish and torment for the unsaved on judgment day as they stand naked before the Judge of all the world. The experience of receiving "many stripes" is one fine example. Who exactly experiences "

Feed My $heep

2011-10-07T09:16:00.041-04:00

The newly planted Family Radio spinoff church (a/k/a "fellowship") headed by Chris McCann of Darby, Pennsylvania is called "Friday Bible Study" or "Friday Night Bible Study". I predict this church will be "mega" by November 21st (IF the LORD tarries), filled to overflowing with the leftover lost sheep from Harold Camping's ministry. Camping's ministry, which currently teaches that the world is

Greater Judgment

2011-10-02T10:36:00.006-04:00

Two groups in the Bible, both with the same "greater judgment". GROUP A: James's Brethren: Jas 3:1 My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation. ["condemnation": Hebrew "krima", Strong's #2917] GROUP B: The Scribes, Pharisees and Hypocrites: Mt 23:14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows’ houses, and for a pretence make

God's Justice: Less Tolerable, Many Stripes, Greater Damnation & Annihilation

2011-10-01T09:46:00.010-04:00

I wrote about more and less tolerable than Sodom on judgment day in my last post. What about "many stripes" on judgment day? In Jesus's parabolic illustration of His return in Luke 17, there is only one metaphorical servant in view. Lu 12:47 And that servant, which knew his lord’s will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. In Luke 12,

Matthew 11:24: NOT Degrees of Punishment in Hell

2011-09-29T21:35:00.019-04:00

Some eternal torment believers think that in Matthew 11:24 Jesus is meting out judgment upon the cities of Chorazin and Bethsaida, but judgment day is still a day we look forward to, even today. Jesus first came as a Shepherd seeking His lost sheep. When He comes again on the clouds of heaven, accompanied by His holy angels, He will come as the Judge of the whole world. Matthew 11:24 is a serious

Job (And the Ninevites) Were Saved

2011-09-27T17:44:00.009-04:00

Harold Camping follower Darrell Lockridge is defending his belief in continuing salvation from last May 21st until October 21st when the world is supposed to be destroyed according to Camping's timeline-related strong delusions. This one will come as a real shocker for anyone who is unfamiliar with the Campingites' belief that their salvation is a thing of the past. They believe they are God's

Judgment is Coming

2011-09-26T00:14:00.000-04:00

Here are 25 verses for Chris McCann's Family Radio team of false teachers who are now teaching a "quiet" conclusion for both the elect and non-elect on October 21st. The new idea they have come up with is a sort of slumber party in place of judgment before Christ who is the Judge of the whole world. These verses were chosen especially for McCann's next Open Forum or Day in the Word. Or, at least,

MARTY! Where Are You?

2011-09-25T14:05:00.018-04:00

Tom Holt has an All Points Bulletin out for the arrest and conviction of Marty Cattuzzo who departed from the Latter Rain group a few years ago to (((GASP))) tweak Harold Camping's timeline for the end. Marty must be having a really good chuckle behind the scenes as he watches Tom accusing LR members of being him. The Latter Rain group is as lively as ever, with Holt's witch hunt, the new "

Opril's Book Club: Four Prophets by J.B. Phillips

2011-09-25T10:43:00.009-04:00

Four Prophets was one of the first e-books I downloaded for my new, New Simple Nook which enables me to carry around a ton of books which, if combined, would never weigh more than 7.48 ounces. I am realizing more and more how important it is to carefully study and meditate on the words God used and their context, rather than simply relying on whatever words were chosen by men who held false ideas

The Vision of Moses and Elijah

2011-09-24T15:45:00.007-04:00

Many people who are chained to their traditional belief that man is immortal find ways of coming up with one problem after another to challenge the biblical doctrine of soul sleep. Instead of looking at the solid proof of soul sleep, they run around like beheaded chickens, always seeking another soul sleep problem to present. One problem the Immortalists have with soul sleep is the vision Peter,

Harold Camping's Good-Bye

2011-09-24T09:46:00.020-04:00

After hearing Harold Camping's latest audio message yesterday (now posted on the Family Radio website, "Greeting From Mr. Camping, Part 2") and reading the online commentaries about it, it seems that the most salient point of his message was just a tad too subtle for the Campingites to glean. The message was not subtle to my ears, as I thought it was screaming "I AM A TOTAL FRAUD!". Some church

Another Soul Sleep Wake Up Call

2011-09-23T10:00:00.008-04:00

From reading Psalm 88:3, one might be tempted to think that the soul is full of troubles in this life while the rest of "life" draws nigh unto the grave. Ps 88:3 For my soul ("nephesh") is full of troubles: and my life ("chay") draweth nigh unto the grave. Anyone reading this who is still in bondage to church tradition and the doctrines of men, STOP HERE. Continue on your merry way, contentedly

Dead Bodies are Dead Souls

2011-09-20T18:19:00.012-04:00

De 19:9 If thou shalt keep all these commandments to do them, which I command thee this day, to love the LORD thy God, and to walk ever in his ways; then shalt thou add three cities more for thee, beside these three:10 That innocent blood be not shed in thy land, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance, and so blood be upon thee.11 But if any man hate his neighbour, and lie in wait